Rajon Rondo's Shot Not Improving

Rajon Rondo's Shot Not Improving

Postby Piston Boris on Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:24 pm

From Celtics Hub:

Rajon Rondo’s Step Back
By Zach Lowe, CelticsHub.com @ July 24th, 8:00 am


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A current list of my obsessions might look something like this:

1) Mila Kunis

2) Discussing ways in which the Harry Potter movies deviate from the books

3) Rajon Rondo’s jump shot.

4) Finding a new apartment in New York

Since this is a basketball blog, I won’t discuss the dreaminess of Mila in “Forgetting Sarah Marshall,” the lack of Voldemort flashbacks in “Half-Blood Prince” or how creating a fake new nickname for the financial district (the “FinDi”) is wrong on at least three different levels.

I will discuss Rajon Rondo’s jump shot, because it is the one thing preventing the Celtics from developing a truly elite offense. With all the KG-inspired focus on the C’s defense the last two seasons, the casual fans have overlooked the fact that the C’s have had a very good to excellent offense since the Big Three arrived. Last year they were fifth in the NBA in offensive efficiency (110.5 points per possessions); in their 2008 title season, they ranked 10th in offensive efficiency, at 110.2. The best offenses of the post-Bird/Magic here (the Jordan Bulls and Nash Suns) have averaged about 114 points per 100 possessions, so the Celtics are a boost away from that sort of greatness.

This despite having a point guard who, outside of occasional flashes, cannot shoot jump shots. And if you don’t think it’s nice when your point guard can shoot, check out the great Jon Nichols’ study (available here at Hardwood Paroxysm) on how good three-point shooting PG impacts a team’s offensive efficiency.

Rajon is nowhere near becoming a good three-point shooter, of course. But I think we’d all settle for some progress on the 15- to 20-foot two-pointers. Unfortunately, we saw no progress between 2008 and 2009. Here are the numbers, using NBA’s hot spot data for every chunk of time other than the 2009 playoffs, which the hot spot data doesn’t include. For the 2009 playoffs, I went through Rajon’s shot charts for all 14 C’s games and tracked only shots from outside 15 feet.

First, the regular season:

2007-8 Regular Season 2008-9 Regular Season

At the rim 220-405 (54%) 283-497 (57%)

Floaters 42-108 (39%) 32-90 (36%)

Long twos 84-186 (45%) 51-117 (43.5%)

Threes 5-17 (29%) 15-48 (31%)

With teams daring him to shoot, Rondo lowered his head and darted his way to the rim with even more determination in 2009. On the one hand, this is a good thing. He hits a high percentage of his in-close shots, and his penetration breaks down the defense and creates open looks for everyone else.
On the other hand, an elite defensive team will find a way to limit his penetration opportunities to floaters instead of lay-ups at the rim. This is what killed Rondo against the Magic. Their point guards sagged off of Rondo, content to let him shoot jumpers, knowing that their perimeter defensive skills and Dwight Howard’s presence would prevent Rajon from breaching beyond the “floater” area. It worked, Rondo’s post-season run sputtered to a mediocre end, and the C’s went home.

Let’s look at the playoff numbers, focusing on the only two-point jumpers outside of 15 feet.

2008 playoffs: 31-63 (50%) in 26 games

2009 playoffs: 23-76 (30%) in 14 games

Ouch.

Rondo’s proficiency on jumpers in the 2008 playoffs was an under-rated reason the Celtics were able to win the title. It probably didn’t crack the top 10 reasons, but the fact that he wasn’t a complete liability forced defenses to guard the Celtics honestly. And good offensive teams can find ways to score against honest defenses.

Orlando didn’t have to do that this season, and that was surely in the top 10 reasons the C’s lost that series.

Get to work, Rajon. (Even it means jacking up your asking price after next season).
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Re: Rajon Rondo's Shot Not Improving

Postby Piston Boris on Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:25 pm

It's interesting to see a Celt insider confirm what observers have noted.
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Re: Rajon Rondo's Shot Not Improving

Postby Crusher on Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:58 am

CelticFanNC, what're Rondo's stats shooting from 15-20 feet so far this season?
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Re: Rajon Rondo's Shot Not Improving

Postby CelticFanNC on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:33 am

Shooting coach Mark Price says don't expect things to change over night and don't expect miracles. But he says by the time the playoffs come around in April, you should expect Rajon Rondo to shoot the ball better than he ever has before.


This is what the best shooting guru in the business had to say about Rondo's shot just yesterday in the Boston papers. What they did was rebuild his jump shot and it will take time to retrain his muscles to shoot it correctly every single time. Mark Price knows his $hit. He worked with Rondo all summer and is still working with him now. It just takes time, mostly building confidence in his new shot. Patience boys. Once he gets that jumper down to being just average he will be all but un-guardable. He doesn't need to be Ray Allen he just needs hit enough of them to make opposing defenders take one step towards him to blow by anybody in the NBA.

Nate "Tiny" Archibald is one of the greatest PG's in NBA history and had arguable the greatest single season any guard has ever had(leading the NBA in scoring AND assists in the same season...sorry but Jordan cannot match that) long before he ever played in Boston. He was a below average jump shooter but he hit enough of them to keep his man close to him and at that point he could blow by anybody. Rondo blows by everybody now so if he improves that jumper only incrementally nobody will be able to keep him out of the paint and it is there that he picks apart your defense.

This kid is going to be GREAT because he wants to be greta and he works his tail off. People can say what they want about his attitude or chippiness(personally I love it) but they cannot take away the fact that this kid works at his game as hard as anyone in the NBA does.
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Postby CelticFanNC on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:22 am

Here are some interesting snippets from an article on Mark Price's work with Rondo's shot.

On what was wrong with Rajon's shot:
"I've had guys whose shots looked a whole lot worse," said Price. "It wasn't a total remake of his shot."


But Price immediately noticed few flaws.

Rondo starts shooting the ball almost on top of his shoulder, which is too far back. And, he takes too long to release the ball.

"Rajon brings the ball back behind his head a little bit. Good shooters should keep the ball out in front a little bit," said Price. "The other thing is his elbow has a tendency to fly out a little bit. We tried to keep his elbows in. He also has a tendency on 'the catch' to throw his elbows out. When you do that, you have to move them back in to get the shot up. That was one of the things slowing down his release a bit."


Another issue Rondo has is shooting off the dribble.
"He has a tendency to play standing straight up," said Price. "You want to be in playing position, more in ready position."

On learning from Ray Allen:
The irony is that Rondo has spent the last 15 months playing right beside Allen, one of the greatest jump shooters of this generation.


"When I'm working with guys I mention Ray Allen a lot," said Price. "Ray's footwork, particularly before he gets the ball is as good as it gets. That's why his release is so quick. He's ready to shoot the ball before he has it ... It really wouldn't have done much good last year, because Rajon wouldn't know what to look for. Now he does. He'll learn a lot watching Ray."


On patience:
Price said that it will take patience for the fans and, especially, Rondo, to wait this transformation out.

Just like when Tiger Woods changed his golf swing in 2005.

"The hardest thing is you miss a shots and struggle for a while. The temptation is to go back to the old way," said Price.

"I like Rajon because he's a worker and he wants to be great," said Price. "He tried to implement the stuff we talked about. It's going to take time. The next step is taking it from the practice floor into the game and sticking with it."
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Re: Rajon Rondo's Shot Not Improving

Postby Crusher on Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:06 pm

Aw shucks. Mark Price is a good shooting coach and Ray Allen's a great example to learn from.

If Price has been rebuilding Rondo's shot this summer, I wonder who was working with Rondo when Boston first drafted him and why it took so long to bring him on board?

Is Ray the type who mentors players? It didn't seem that Rondo got anything from him in terms of shooting technique during the last 2 seasons.

Fortunately, Mitch brought Artest on board to help out Black Mamba on the perimeter D.
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Re: Rajon Rondo's Shot Not Improving

Postby CelticFanNC on Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:26 pm

During last seasons playoffs one of the announcers(cant remember which one) called Ray Allen the most paternal player in the NBA. He has worked tirelessly on his own time with young players in Milwaukee, Seattle and Boston. He works with them on having a routine and being professional on and off the court as well as on their games. Rashard Lewis credits Ray Allen with being the guy most responsible for making him into the great shooter he is today., Lewis copied Allen's pre-game routine showing up to the arena hours before anyone else does. He worked with Rondo some last season but Rondo has been working mostly with Price since the end of last off season even paying his own way to fly back and forth from Boston to Atlanta twice a week all sumer long. Price was in Boston working with him this week on the Celtics dime.

So far this year he has been really getting all of his teammates involved and only looking for his own shot when they are struggling to score so it's hard to see the improvement. One thing I have noticed him doing now that he has never done in the past is stopping and popping at the FT line in transition and looking fairly confident while doing so. Ray Allen has said he hits 20 FT's in a row in practice with regularity so I believe most of his issues there are confidence related.
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Re: Rajon Rondo's Shot Not Improving

Postby Crusher on Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:04 am

Thanks for the Boston insider scoop, man.

Things didn't add up watching Rondo from afar. Young players usually increase their shooting range--if they work on it.

I'll send some feedback to Shannon Brown to look up Mark Price.
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Re: Rajon Rondo's Shot Not Improving

Postby CelticFanNC on Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:24 am

Last night in Boston mosr celebrated players like Deron Williams, Carlos Boozer, Paul Milsap, Paul Pierce, Rasheed Wallace, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen were all on the floor but the guy who dominated that game was Rajon Rondo. You cant really see that from reading a box score. He totally controlled the tempo of the game. His stats were good, double/double good but they only tell part of the story. His defense was as usual, game changing.
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Postby Crusher on Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:35 am

I hear Rondo can dribble 94 feet in 3.1 seconds.

I was half-expecting him to join the 2010 free agent class, so that Mitch could give him a call.

The summer of 2010 will be fun to watch.
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